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The Official Newsletter
Winter Issue December 2010 ~ Volume 10, Number 4

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  • Ministry Update

  • Letters:

  • --- Power of Obedience & Prayer

  • --- A Church Member's Dilemma

  • --- Deut. 24 Difficulties?

  • Sponsor A Meeting

  • Points to Ponder

  • The ABC's of Salvation

  • Christmas

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    00 Brother Webb,

    I wanted to send you a note to say that it was a pleasure to meet you at the Marriages For Life Conference in Connecticut. It was a blessing to fellowship with brothers and sisters who I have never met before.

    Your ministry has helped me tremendously in being equipped concerning the truth about God's teaching on marriage. I have been able to share the Truth with family, friends and church folks alike. It falls on deaf ears many times, but we are called to be faithful to Him, no matter if the message is rejected or received.

    I want you to know that there are many who pray for you and the ministry that God has blessed you with. Your obedience to the Lord's calling has blessed so many.

    Blessings - N.P.


    Year-end contributors will receive, upon request, "The Subtle Web of Divorce and Remarriage"

    This is a DVD containing three interviews of conference speakers at the Pittsburgh, Marriages For Life Conference.

    You do not want to miss this opportunity. This DVD has been used by God in a mighty way and will be an asset in your witness.

    Call, write to us or visit
    CPR Ministries online. Your contributions and gifts are greatly appreciated...

    00 Hi Joe:

    Just read your newsletter and I must say the question and answer is a wealth of information for us lay folks!!.. I am so excited about being able to listen to you on the computer! I can take you with me on vacation! Have a blessed time with your new computer guy.

    Blessings, L.D./IA

    Dr Webb,

    I have both your books and I listened to both July 1 and 8 broadcast today. It was encouraging to hear both your messages.

    My husband is a prodigal pastor, living in adultery. The other person left her husband to be with my husband. My husband was 'counseling' her like 15 years ago, she came with her husband to our home for my husband's 50th birthday dinner at our home in 1995.

    It was good to hear the 'young' voice at the end of the broadcast, Pastor Raymond. His speaking was very clear, precise, well spoken, well done. With sincere appreciation to you for standing for God's only, right way. I'm standing strong till death do us part. Thank you so much for making and taking time for the broadcasts. May God bless and keep you and your families.

    With love and blessings - J.B.


    Please remember CPR in your "Year-End Giving" considerations. We would appreciate your gift of any size.

    You can make a difference in the distribution of this timely message.

    There may never be a more opportune time to proclaim the truth of God in the area of marriage and family.

    We appreciate those who are faithful in giving and we are secure in the knowledge that God will supply our needs as you have opportunity to give.

    God is at work around us! He is calling us all to action! You can minister to us as we minister to others.

    Thank you for giving, and God Bless.

    Hello from Kenosha, Wisconsin!

    I am currently getting your newsletter via snail mail and was wondering if you could put me on the email newsletter list instead. This will lessen your mailing cost and I can still be blessed at the same time!

    I have been blessed by your ministry for about 10 years now and over the years have been able to share your information with others. Thank the Lord you are still going strong and you are up and running on the web!

    Such a huge blessing. I just sent your website to one of my home school groups and do hope the Lord will bless!

    Thanks for all your years of ministry, esp. on a very sensitive subject. Thanks for speaking God's Truth and pray for a revival in the hearts of those who it touches!

    Sincerely, M.


    I just want to say thank you for your ministry! Thanks to people like you, we are being taught the true word of God - without twisting it!

    I was married, divorced & "re-married" without knowing this truth. Luckily, the man I was with said that I was a stolen wife & that we had living spouses. We parted ways. I have since gotten back with my covenant husband & am so blessed to be standing & living with the vows that I said over 9 yrs ago!

    I wish we never would have taken a side path, but that road led us back together & am pleased to say our marriage today is better than before! All thanks to GOD!

    My question is - how do we find a church that believes in the permanency of marriage? It seems like EVERY church believes in re-marriage.

    I went to a church a few weeks ago where the preacher was talking about a man who had gotten re-married & how happy he is, then he talked about another man who got married for all the wrong reasons & knows next time he will keep Christ in the center.

    This saddens me! I have no tolerance for this - oddly enough. Now that I "see" the truth, I want to be in a church that believes what the bible says. Do you have any advice?

    My husband really loves this church. I don't. It is a huge mega church - therefore, sin isn't preached against, because he would probably lose a lot of his congregation. However, even other churches in the area believe in re-marriage. Any tips for me?

    Thanks, H.B.


    DVD Seminar Series

    "Till Death Do Us Part?"

    These DVDs are perfect for Bible Study or Sunday School.

    This set of six discs, each 45-50 minutes in length, is only $70 + S&H.

    Quantity Desired:

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    This CD contains BOTH
    "Till Death Do Us Part?" and
    "Divorce and Remarriage: The Trojan Horse Within the Church" audio books on one disc for just $25 + S&H.

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    Dear Dr. Webb,

    I am sorry for not opening up to you about what was going on with me while I was in Fl. I was just very angry and I wasn't prepared to be open to any person who had the title of "pastor" as yet. since, my Pastor then, made me feel so disappointed and I felt like I couldn't trust another one even though I know where you stand on the topic. I was literally "going through" and after my experience at the church I have now left, I feel much better. What I mean Dr Webb, is I was really crushed when I learned that my previous-pastor refused to allow you to share in his church congregation. Then, I felt like he was beginning to compromise. I wasn't feeling comfortable staying at the church anymore, so I wanted to move to FL to be under a Pastor like you; but, that never happened, so I was further disappointed and felt like my dreams had all died. Like there was no hope left for me, and I just could not explain my hurt to anyone. I tried, but, it was too difficult.

    On a more positive note. I finally went to see my husband in Africa and the Lord really gave me a miracle. He is still "not himself" anymore, but I AM STILL believing God for restoration of our marriage. Your teachings and book "Divorce and Remarriage: Trojan Horse in the church" have done a great deal for me...Much more than you could ever imagine. I have been standing on your teachings and get rejected by many and looked upon as "crazy", but that's okay. I know the truth and they don't want to accept it. I recently shared some of the scriptures you mentioned in your book and was trying to explain it to a Pastor friend of mine and she wrote me saying " I am a theology major..." After reading her email, I knew in my spirit that she was being convicted but refused to accept the truth.

    May God continue to give you strength to do his will.


    00 Dear Dr. Webb

    Heartbeat is such an encouragement. I have copied and saved the Q&A section and will use them in my workshops.


    00 C.P.R. For Marriages

    Thousands of families have been strengthened and restored to a solid scriptural foundation through the teachings of Dr. Joseph Webb.

    In C.P.R. for Marriages and the Marriages For Life Conferences Dr. Webb presents a scripturally balanced approach to identify the errors of popular teaching. He reveals the destructive influence these errors have had on the earthly family and the body of Christ. His presentation on the sanctity and permanence of marriage is both relevant in the preservation of families and shows that our walk with God is not about us, but is to be lived in a way that will bring Glory to God.

    Christian Principles Restored, CPR Ministries, was created with the goal of reestablishing Biblical principles concerning courting, marriage, and divorce to secure Godly permanent homes and families.

    Ministry Update
    These past few months have been exhausting, fruitful and exhilarating. We have completed recording both books and they are now available on one mp3 disc for the first time ever! There are many who cannot find the time to read the books but can find time to listen to them. With both books on one mp3 disc, you can listen to them while travelling or relaxing. This also allows someone to download the books onto a virtual book or listen to them online. This mp3 disc, with both books in audio format, is being offered for just $25.00 + S&H.
    We also have the complete 'Till Death Do Us Part?' Seminar on six DVDs. Each DVD is approximately 45-50 minutes, perfect for Sunday School classes or home Bible studies for those desiring to know more about this teaching. One supporter received a set, listened to it and immediately ordered TEN additional sets to send to pastors and Christian leaders. The entire six-disc set is available for a limited, introductory price of $70.00 + S&H.

    I cannot think of a more appropriate gift for family and friends. They will be an informative and permanent enlightenment, establishing Biblical convictions in families, heretofore uninformed. Order right away - It will definitely give them something no one else has, but needs.

    Quantity Desired:

    We were privileged to conduct two marriage seminars and participate in one "Marriages For Life Conference" over a period of four weeks. After each seminar we received very positive responses from all those in attendance and some quality decisions were made in the lives of many. May we encourage some of you to consider the possibility of sponsoring a seminar in your church or community? We will be glad to help you make it become a reality.

    We continue to counsel people around the world. Blindness concerning this truth is pandemic. Please pray the Lord will continue to open the eyes of individuals and organizations around the world. Revival will ONLY come when God's people REPENT concerning this matter of adultery and families are Biblically restored.

    Pat and I thank the Lord for each of you who have been a part of this ministry this past year. Your participation has allowed us to make these major advances in getting this truth out. Thank you for your love, prayers and faithful monthly support of this special ministry.

    Joe & Pat Webb

    LETTERS: The Power of Obedience & Prayer
    Hello from Oz - With a praise report:

    My husband and I worked with Marriage Ministries International for many years as a way to bring marriage healing to several nations here in the South Pacific.

    You are probably aware that they teach that remarriage is sin and that God has a path for restoration. Although they have some differences from your ministry, it was anointed and changed many lives. We were also involved with Covenant Keepers and participated in Family Foundations. Marriage is our life.

    We taught the course with them from 1983 to 1999/2000. We grew in our own marriage and learned so much revelation about marriage in the Word. Thirteen years ago our eldest son was married but it fell apart after 5 years. Although we tried to counsel them, we were too close and found it impossible. So even after some attempts at Christian counsel, our daughter-in-law divorced our son. It was devastating for him. He, as the eldest, felt like a failure and was very embarrassed to be in the situation. He tried to stand for the marriage but didn't seem to "get it". After a few years, he decided to just live his own life. We wanted him to follow God and work to restore his marriage but it never worked. Many confrontations and talks did nothing to help him see where he was headed. Our son was very "happy", finally ended up with a girlfriend, a new job and a car which was paid off. All looked great to him. (but not in His heart)

    Throughout the years we had been praying for them but last October God clearly told us to start praying fervently, daily and aggressively. So we did. It quickly resulted in God talking to our son in dreams and him telling his girlfriend that he was already married and they could have no future together. The prodigal returned late Nov., repentant. Then our son wanted to know if our daughter-in-law was still alive and flippantly asked God to tell him what to do...it took 2 days for an answer.

    Through a very amazing supernatural story including dreams, visions, and open encounters with God...after 8 years of no contact... our daughter-in-law contacted our son's sister-in-law via Facebook. From that contact, she eventually talked to our son's, us, and each member of the family....to ask for forgiveness. They ended up with a $900 phone bill that month, then she came to visit. They went for their first restoration "date" and decided that they needed to obey God and get back together. They have been working on many heart issues. That was February.

    Tomorrow is July 4. (our son was a US Marine.) They chose the day to reaffirm their marriage covenant. We are awed. The day belongs to God!!! Throughout the last 6 months, it has been surreal... yet naturally supernatural watching God restore them. What an amazing miracle! However, they as individuals were both prodigal. She had been in an adulterous marriage and subsequent divorce. He had dated and was drinking heavily to numb the pain. Neither of them was looking for restoration. Yet God in His mercy... WOW!

    We believe that we had the prayer clout because we had witnessed the marriage covenant ceremony and would not let it go. God had not let it go. He knew when to move and allowed us to be a part of His plan for them. Wow!

    What an awesome God we serve! Thank you for your material..teaching God's plan for marriage..God wants marriage to reflect Him and His Love and desire for intimacy. Awesome!!

    In Yeshua, J.J.

    Sponsor a Meeting!
    If you would like to sponsor a marriage seminar in your area, please contact our office and we will be glad to work with you.

    Call us at 407-834-5233 or email us at cpr-ministries@cfl.rr.com

    LETTERS Cont'd: A Church Member's Dilemma

    Dear Dr. Webb,

    I had just emailed my pastor concerning divorce and remarriage (see below to "Pastor T") and then his response. I don't know what to do.

    The books he is referring to are your 2 books. I had given them to him and he had read them also. He had given me a book which I had tried to read and understand but it never made any Godly sense to me.

    Please let me know your thoughts? What should I do? Should I meet with him? Should I just email him with a verse or 2 and ask him what they mean?

    I had been attending his church for over 6 years and I have grown under his ministry. But this is one area I just can't agree with him.

    Please let me know what you think...


    [C.M.'s first email to Pastor T.]


    I have more questions over the divorce-remarriage issue. You're a very busy man so I thought I would start emailing the questions to you and this way you can think about your answers....

    1. You had told me in the past (6 yrs + ago) that I am free to move on and there could be some Godly man out there for me. Do you still believe that? If that is correct, then I could date and possibly get married to someone other than my first husband and I was his first wife), even if he is still alive, correct? Where is that in the Bible that I can 'move on' meaning get remarried while my husband still lives?

    2. Or am I supposed to remain single and never remarry as long as my husband lives? (I Cor 7: 10-11) That is not what my flesh wants because I do not really want to be alone for the rest of my life either. But then it isn't what I want but what would be honoring to God. Besides in reality, I would not be alone, because He is always with me - whether married or single.

    3. If I were to date and marry someone else, would I be committing adultery again, as long as my husband is alive? (Romans 7:1-3)

    4. Who is an adulterous/adulterer? (Mark 10:11-12; Luke 16:18) When do they cease being an adulterous/adulterer?

    5. What is true repentance?

    6. If the church is growing in numbers and in His Spirit, where are the helpers? Where are teachers for the children? (I see you are drawing many who come because of getting free food.) But the food of the Word is much more important.

    You have a lot of knowledge due to reading many books. But remember: only one book is God inspired. That is the one I read and study. I really am not much of a reader. I wish I could read Greek and Hebrew because the originals are in these languages. All other Bibles are translations and are subject to error. And I feel we need to go back to what the very early Christians taught and believed. Satan has very cunningly infiltrated the church of today. Humanism has become a part of the church. The church has taken on the ways of the world. Women have been liberated but that is the way of the world, and not God's.


    [Response from Pastor T to C.M.'s first email]


    There is so much I could say..but God just keeps prompting me to show love and extend grace. I do love you C. with the love of Christ and only want God's best for your life. I would be happy to sit down with you and talk about this if you feel that would be helpful in any way. I guess my only question is this--since I am certain that less than one minister in 1000 ministers would hold to your position--that a divorced and remarried man should leave his second wife and go back and live with his first wife, does that mean that 99.9% of all of the pastors in the United States are spiritual lightweights and are wrong and that you instead are right? Is God blessing Charles Stanley's ministry? He does not hold to your position. Has God blessed the Ministry of Chuck Smith? He does not hold to your position. Pick any well known, well respected Godly Minister. I can virtually guarantee you that he does not hold to your position.

    You say the only book that you read is the Bible, but I do know Carol that after you read those two books by that one minister, your position on this issue greatly changed. I don't believe your position would be at the exact same place it is today, had you not read writings by that author. I'm not saying you might not be holding to the same position, but your position was strengthened and affected by a book other than the Bible.

    In Christ love, Pastor T.

    [2nd email from C.M. in response to Pastor T]

    Pastor T,

    I am writing this because I consider you a brother in Christ. Who am I to say, I am but a mere woman who was soooooo wrong. I thought I was a Christian but was living in sin for many years; but GOD in HIS Mercy convicted my heart of my sin & forgave this wretched soul. If I am right about this, you are sending many at your church to Hell (I Cor 6:9-10) that are remarried and while their covenant spouse is yet alive. You will be held accountable as their pastor (shepherd). (Hebrews 13:17) For your sake, I pray I am wrong, but the more I study the Bible, the more HE confirms to me that remarriage is adultery if either has a living covenant spouse. But if someone repents (true repentance means confessing the sin and turning away from that sin), God can and will forgive them. You cannot say you're sorry for a sin and then continue doing that sin (Romans 6:1-3,Romans 7:7-8) and call that repentance and that you are forgiven. With all other sins, people say you need to stop doing it and change your life - but not adultery. In adultery supposedly you can ask God to forgive you and then stay in that relationship because God hates divorce: (but God still calls it adultery!). It doesn't make any Godly sense.

    God gave the definition of repentance in HIS Word (1 Kings 8:34-36; 2 Chronicles 6:25-27)

    Yes God is a God of Love, but HE is also a Holy, Righteous, God. Someday we will all stand before HIM and account for our lives. Sin is sin. I confessed my sin of adultery to God and I've done a 180* turn around. I am not perfect. I am still learning and growing in HIS Grace. Over history (Jonah & Ninevah, John the Baptist, ...) when there was a great revival, it wasn't because they said "God loves you" but that the people needed to "repent of their sins and turn back to God". Think-about it....I have grown under your ministry. But this is one area I cannot agree to disagree any more. It grieves my heart to hear you tell your sheep that if they are married, whether their 2nd, or 3rd + that they should remain as they are - married because God hates divorce. Yes, with a remarriage, they are married by the law of the land but Jesus called it adultery (legalized adultery) if they have a 1st covenant wife/husband that still lives and are married to another person. God hates sin. Adultery is sin. Narrow is the path that leads to God and FEW shall find it. Jesus said that we will suffer for Him if we are true followers - not a bed of roses - at least not till we get to heaven. Our reward will be in heaven and not on this earth.

    Time is short. We can see the Bible being fulfilled before our eyes. In the last days there shall be a great falling away of the church (Rev. 3:15-19) The church has become lukewarm. Many shall say, Lord, Lord, I did this and that, and HE will say HE never knew them. God will spew them out of His mouth.

    Your sister in Christ, (if I may still say that..) C.M.
    (I Cor. 6:11 who I am now!)

    P.S. although I have not been attending your church. I have been trying to listen online to the sermons as I am able. If you still disagree with me guess I'm a thorn in your side. May HE use me for HIS honor and glory! And I know, if you were to ever change your mind, you would only do it after much prayer. It would not be something you would casually think about and change your mind; but with much thought, study, and prayer. But for the sheep in your fold, I pray that you reconsider this prayerfully. Again, for your sake I pray that I'm wrong. But I definitely don't believe I am wrong after I have studied His Word regarding this for these last 6 years. And I believe God is the same yesterday, today and forever. HE never changes. Pastor T, I feel you have a heart that yearns to preach the truth of the Word. I pray you will reexamine this, using HIS Word and not what others have written. I pray that HIS Holy Spirit will speak to your heart and that your eyes will be open to HIS truth and you will be willing to stand up and admit the truth despite a lot of opposition. May our church have a true revival!


    [Dr. Joseph Webb's Response to C.M.]

    Dear C.M.,

    I do not know how you could have made a better or more scriptural appeal to Pastor T., but his conclusions are being based on a poll that says the majority of pastors disagree with your position, thus you are wrong and I will go with the majority.

    Again I say, when was the crowd EVER right in the Bible? Your pastor knows what the cost to him would be if he ever got serious about the scriptures you presented to him, so he will be content to do as the Lord charged Israel in Jeremiah 7:8-10. You might want to read it in the Living Bible here.

    It says:

    "Do you really think that you can steal, murder, commit adultery, lie, and worship Baal and all of those new gods of yours, and then come here and stand before me in my temple and chant, 'We are saved!' - only to go right back to all those evil things again? Is my Temple but a den of robbers in your eyes?' For I see all the evil going on in there."

    Your letter was as clear as any could be, but he is comparing himself and his teachings with what the majority of others are teaching, saying, "They can't all be wrong and you right."

    The crucial difference is you didn't tell him what you thought, you presented the Word of God very concisely, and he made NO reference to the verses, but only justified his position by saying he was in the majority.

    Don't allow his indifference to affect your conviction. Heaven and earth will pass away, but His Word will never pass away.

    Thank you for your bold faith!

    Dr. Joseph A. Webb

    Points to Ponder
    I have often wished that there were some way to bring modern Christians into a deeper spiritual life painlessly by short easy lessons; but such wishes are vain. No shortcut exists! God has not bowed to our nervous haste nor embraced the methods of our machine age. It is well that we accept the hard truth now: the man who would know God must give time to Him! He must count no time wasted which is spent in the cultivation of His acquaintance. He must give himself to meditation and prayer hours on end. So did the saints of old, the glorious company of the apostles, the goodly fellowship of the prophets and the believing members of the holy Church in all generations. And so must we if we would follow in their train!

    from Tozer Devotional, "Give Time to God"

    The person who would know God must give time to Him.

    *Too many couples marry for better or for worse, but not for GOOD.

    *None of us has the power or right to define something none of us created. Jesus and Paul defined marriage for us, as 'one man, one woman, FOR LIFE.'

    LETTERS Cont'd: Deuteronomy 24 Difficulties?
    Hello Joseph,

    I want to start by saying may God richly bless this vital end time correcting ministry & all who are laboring so faithfully. God has given me a passion for the truth that you proclaim on divorce & re-marriage (so called) to go out in these days. I will give you a bit of my background that led up to how I feel.

    My dear covenant wife of 25 years, left me 14 years ago & she has divorced me & re-married. God has assured me that He is going to restore us. I have had so many rhema words from the Bible, & dreams also. It has been a very difficult & challenging walk; but I will, by God's grace, continue to stand & not give up. My wife is 61 & is in an adulterous relationship with a man who is now 80. I have just turned 70. I have never considered re-marriage as I have always known it is wrong whilst my one & only wife is still alive. I have been with Covenant keepers for years but used to believe as taught by them that a covenant can be broken if none stands & that if someone repented of re-marrying they could stay in that relationship. I have now seen thru that lie & am very sad that they still think it is okay to stand for a 2nd marriage when there is a pre-existing spouse. I am going to email them at an opportune time, hopefully to expose this error. Would it be possible to put my wife and me on your prayer list? I believe God has a purpose for us to testify & perhaps share with other hurting couples to give them hope for the future. The sticking point with my wife seems to be Deut 24. She thinks like a lot of others, that her re-marriage is legitimate. She did send me a very nice Christian E-card for my 70th recently. She hasn't done that in 14 years. Also, God said to me 2 years ago that she was going to move to Auckland where I live & I ran into her in the supermarket 8 months ago & asked her what brings her to Auckland. She said that they (I didn't like the they) have come up here to live now. This is not about my happiness but I want God to be glorified.

    So in the last 4-5 months or so God has given me a passion for this truth concerning divorce & re-marriage to get out. I would like to be a part of this ministry God has raised up. I am just feeling my way at the moment & trusting God to lead me... I am also in contact with Mike Gorrie as he has a Bible study once a week. I would very much like to receive your newsletters & hear from you if you have time.

    God richly bless you & your wife & family
    from M.D. / NZ

    Dear Pastor Joseph,

    Thank you for your reply. I am, as I said before, really concerned that this vital truth on DRM gets out. I would like to order 5 of your books "till death do us part" to pass out to those the Lord leads me to. How is this done? Will I give you my visa card details & address, which is in New Zealand; or do I order thru another section of the CPR website?

    My constant cry is that God will be merciful to & rescue those caught in this terrible plague of deception. But not with the false mercy many Pastors are teaching, to give permission to re-marry. The other day God gave me a picture of a huge, very long hose, which is all tangled up in knots, to illustrate the DRM situation in the church. He went on to show me that when a hose is tangled with knots the water flow is seriously restricted. So the flow of the Holy Spirit is restricted in the church because of the widespread adultery. It is a huge issue, but God said "when the enemy comes in, like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord will lift up a standard against him." Please pray that God will give me wisdom & guidance to get this truth out. I don't want to rush in where fools dare to tread, yet there is an urgency about this mission. I hope to hear from you concerning your book order.

    May our God mightily bless you: from M.D. / NZ

    Dear M.D.,

    Thank you for your E-mail inquiry. How we thank the Lord for the way He is speaking to more and more people about becoming a part of this End time restoration of truth concerning marriage and divorce. We are now receiving hundreds of hits everyday on our website, CPR Ministries. There is a hunger in many people's hearts to find out why there is so much confusion and immorality in the Church today.

    You can expect rejection whenever you share this truth with most people because it is unheard of today. The blessings however, is when we hear reports from all over of those who have read the book, in many situations have thrown it away or burned it, and then the Holy Spirit convicts them and they obey his Word. Many are being thrown out of their churches, but they should remember the man who was born blind, didn't really learn who Jesus was until the Pharisees threw him out of the temple.

    To order the book, go to www.cpr-ministries.org. Right under the ad for "Till Death Do Us Part?" there is an "order now" button. Go there and you will be directed how to order the books plus any other materials available to minister to you.

    May the Lord direct you with wisdom as you share this material to a people who have never heard. Pray over each book and realize the Lord has many people He knows who need this truth and will respond to it. Jesus said to Paul about Corinth, "For I have many people is this city." If you ask for wisdom and don't doubt, He will guide you in your efforts.

    J. Webb

    Hi Joseph again,

    Sorry to trouble you again. Would it be possible to advise me.

    I feel that a bit later God wants me to approach the ministry of covenant keepers, to challenge them on part of their writings, where they say quote--Mal 2:14 "God says He is a witness to the covenant made at your marriage vows." The husband & wife are the other witnesses. If one mate leaves & files for divorce, the covenant can still be held of record by the remaining mate because God is a witness & therefore two witnesses remain.(So far so good) but then the writing goes on to say--However, if both mates choose by words & actions to divorce, the covenant is broken. God remains as the only witness & by his own word one witness does not establish a matter.

    They then say, that if a covenant is broken, then standing for a 2nd marriage is okay because the first covenant is broken.

    Joseph, I can't accept that at all because there are many witnesses at a true marriage & surely that does not change. Gal 3:15 says that no one can set aside or add to a human covenant. Also Ps 89:34 says God will not break a covenant. Also there is no record that I know of in scripture of anyone standing for a 2nd marriage whilst there is a pre-existing spouse. I have been involved with that ministry for 14 years & it has only been in the last 8 or so months that I have seen that error. Have you any advice as to what else I can say to them? Because of this I do not feel fully supportive of them now. I am, however very thankful for all the support they have given me all these years as I stand for my one & only marriage. I know you are a very busy man but would like to hear your comments regarding this. Thanks.

    God bless from M.D. / NZ


    I appreciate your enthusiasm for reaching Covenant Keepers because they are reaching so many people with a half-truth. Many of their leaders have been approached by other standers around the world, only to be rebuffed. Their attitude up to now is, "Our minds are made up; don't confuse me with the facts."

    The facts are, God hates all divorces. God joins two people by their vows and once it is established by God, "No man may separate what God has joined together, for they have been divinely joined."

    Later votes by the couple have no effect on the covenant. Covenant Keepers say, if both parties vote 'It was a mistake, they OUT VOTE God and the covenant is over."

    I John 5:7 says: "For there are THREE that bear record in heaven, the Father, The Word (Jesus Christ) and the Holy Ghost." Three out votes two.

    In Matthew 5:33 & 37; Jesus makes it clear what He expects from mankind. vs. 33: "Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, (Moses) Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:"...vs. 37 "But let your communication be, Yea, Yea; Nay, nay: FOR WHATSOEVER IS MORE THAN THESE COMETH OF EVIL."

    Again, in Luke 16:18, Jesus said: "Whosoever divorces his wife and marries another, committeth ADULTERY: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband (Here, the second partner who was abandoned when the first partner divorced her, now decides not to stay alone and wait for her covenant partner, who has already divorced her and remarried. Does this mean both of them have now agreed the first marriage was over? Since both have decided to let the first partner go and remarry, doesn't that indicate the first marriage is over? Jesus didn't know this, because he said, when the first divorces and remarries, it constitutes adultery. Then He goes on to say when the one put away in the first divorce gives up and decides to remarry, thus both agreeing the first is over: Jesus calls both of these decisions: ADULTERY! Evidently, their majority vote did not constitute a majority vote in God's eyes. He says it is adultery! Sex outside of the covenant, that is still in effect, even though both parties abandoned it.

    I pray the Lord will lead you to some honest hearts over there who will submit to the totality of God's holy Word.

    God bless you, Dr. Joseph A. Webb


    Hello! I just want to say thank you for your ministry! Thanks to people like you, we are being taught the true word of God - without twisting it! I was married, divorced & "re-married" without knowing this truth. Luckily, the man I was with said that I was a stolen wife & that we had living spouses. We parted ways. I have since gotten back with my covenant husband & am so blessed to be standing & living with the vows that I said over 9 yrs ago! I wish we never would have taken a side path, but that road led us back together & am pleased to say our marriage today is better than before! All thanks to GOD! My question is - how do we find a church that believes in the permanency of marriage? It seems like EVERY church believes in re-marriage. I went to a church a few weeks ago where the preacher was talking about a man who had gotten re-married & how happy he is, then he talked about another man who got married for all the wrong reasons & knows next time he will keep Christ in the center. This saddens me! I have no tolerance for this - oddly enough. Now that I "see" the truth, I want to be in a church that believes what the bible says. Do you have any advice? My husband really loves this church. I don't. It is a huge mega church - therefore, sin isn't preached against, because he would probably lose a lot of his congregation. However, even other churches in the area believe in re-marriage. Any tips for me?

    Thanks, H.B.


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